I have spent hours adjusting file permissions which only stopped things working.
I have only one error message to deal with now, that is when I do a backup,
I get “internal server error” in a red popup, yet when I look there is a backup zipped file in the backup folder.
I have all permissions 0777 for testing, so there should be no possibility that file permissions are the problem.
Can anyone help with this error.
Thanks, john
Just to add to my original post, the small icon keeps spinning even after I get the internal server error popup, and before this error first appeared, during my first tiral backup, I got a message that had something something close() in a red popup,
putting the spinning icon and this message together tells me a script is still running even after it has completed its task, is there a chance this is a coding error in GRAV.
Do you use symlinks?
Hi, am using Hiawatha Web Server. l access the site as a sub domain, this should have nothing to do with it. I use php-fpm, and have FluxBB and had bookings script also php based all working without error on same server with hiawatha and apache.
Php and hiawatha are clearly communicating, I will point apache at GRAV later to see what happens. I like what I see in Grav, but way too many file permission problems, I should be structured so that folders and files are kept in groups which represent their permissions, no point in sticking one file that needs 0777 in with others that are all 0644 for example, this in my opinion is the biggest problem am facing.
Also, it is not made clear until after install that one can select via GRAV
to use one of four caching scripts, and as such I have memcached (NOT MEMCACHE) installed instead of one of the options available in GRAVE, which I presume are known to work with GRAV.
Regards, john
@john what about the symlinks? Are you using those?
Here is an example hiawatha config file, I have GRAV set up like the sub domain entry in the below.
I tried pointing apache to my GRAV install folder, I can access the single default home page, but can not get the admin section to open, is there a specific way to get to the admin login screen, all of this worked in hiawatha, other than the one error am left with and the file permission issues.
I do not understand sym links, and am not to my knowledge
using them.
EXAMPLE HIAWATHA CONFIGURATION FILE BELOW
#FIRST!!!
#MAKE A COPy OF hiawatha.conf file BEFORE YOU MAKE
#ANY ALTERATIONS, better to be safe than sorry.
#Note, am using php Fast-CGI
#THEN
#Use the below tookit in your hiawatha.conf file
#Use either the DEFAULT WEBSITE section to enter your
#details, or a virtual host section
#DO NOT USE BOTH
#There are many other settings in the hiawatha.conf
#file that are not shown here, just copy and paste the
#parts in this file into your hiawatha.conf file and
#alter where need be,such as “yourfolder” which should
#be replaced by the name of the folder you install GRAV into,
#when you open “yourfolder” you should see al the GRAV folders
#and files inside.
#and “yoursite” should be replaced by the likes of “microsoft”, as
#if your site were named microsoft.com
#===Toolkit Below is for GRAV On hiawatha Web Server ===
UrlToolkit {
ToolkitID = grav
Match base64_encode[^(]([^)]) DenyAccess
Match (<|%3C)([^s]s)+cript.(>|%3E) DenyAccess
Match GLOBALS(=|[|%[0-9A-Z]{0,2}) DenyAccess
Match _REQUEST(=|[|%[0-9A-Z]{0,2}) DenyAccess
Match ^/(.git|cache|bin|logs|backup|webserver-configs)/(.) DenyAccess
Match ^/(system|vendor)/(.).(txt|xml|md|html|yaml|php|pl|py|cgi|twig|sh|ba t)$ DenyAccess
Match ^/(user)/(.*).(txt|md|yaml|php|pl|py|cgi|twig|sh|bat)$ DenyAccess
Match .md$ DenyAccess
Match ^/(LICENSE.txt|composer.lock|composer.json|.htaccess)$ DenyAccess
RequestURI exists Return
Match .* Rewrite /index.php
}
#=== End of This toolkit entry ===
#Refference the GRAV toolkit above in the host or virtual host section
#where you wish to include your GRAV sited details,like bolow.
#in a different section.
Hostname = 120.245.82.190
#Hostname = 127.0.0.1
WebsiteRoot = /var/www/yourfolder
UseToolkit = grav
StartFile = index.php
#ExecuteCGI = yes , no, you can see am using fastCGI
#and the line below reflects this
UseFastCGI = PHP5
AccessLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/access.log
ErrorLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/error.log
#This is the end of the default website section,
#in reality there are many more options that one could include,
#they are explained on the hiawatha website.
#Below is an example of GRAV install details for subdomain.
#Refference the GRAV toolkit above in the virtual host section
#where you wish to include your GRAV site details,like shown beolow.
#In the example below I am using a subdomain to access the Grav site.
#If you wish to install GRAV as your main site, then use the default
#site section and fill in your details there, they will be the same details
#except you will not be entering any virtual host settings such as in the
#example below.
#Hostname = myblog.example, *.myblog.example
VirtualHost {
Hostname = www.yourfolder.yoursite.com, *.yourfolder.yoursite.com
WebsiteRoot = /var/www/yourfolder
StartFile = index.php
AccessLogfile = /var/www/yourfolder/access.log
ErrorLogfile = /var/www/yourfolder/error.log
#TimeForCGI = 10
#ExecuteCGI = yes
UseFastCGI = PHP5
UseToolkit = grav
#UseToolkit = banshee
}
#ServerId = www-data
ConnectionsTotal = 1000
ConnectionsPerIP = 25
SystemLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/system.log
GarbageLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/garbage.log
Binding {
Port = 80
}
#Binding {
#Port = 443
#}
#BanOnGarbage = 300
#BanOnMaxPerIP = 60
#BanOnMaxReqSize = 300
#KickOnBan = yes
#RebanDuringBan = yes
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/perl:pl
#Uncommented the line below after initial install.
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/php-cgi:php
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/python:py
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/ruby:rb
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/ssi-cgi:shtml
#CGIextension = cgi
FastCGIserver {
FastCGIid = PHP5
#ConnectTo = /var/lib/hiawatha/php-fcgi.sock:9000, does not work,
#ConnectTo = /run/php-fpm/php-fpm.sock does not work,
ConnectTo = 127.0.0.1:9000
Extension = php
}
Any chance to get that config file in a code snippet? i.e. between triple dashes? --- to convert it into markdown-style code block ???
I hope this is what you have asked for, this is the same example hiawatha.conf form I posted above, I can not post my own as its from a live server and shows too much, but I have GRAV installed as a sub domain, along with many other php installations, that all work, there is an entry in my DNS server to open the correct site, so hiawatha has no way of messing this up.
— #FIRST!!!
#MAKE A COPy OF hiawatha.conf file BEFORE YOU MAKE
#ANY ALTERATIONS, better to be safe than sorry.
#Note, am using php Fast-CGI
#THEN
#Use the below tookit in your hiawatha.conf file
#Use either the DEFAULT WEBSITE section to enter your
#details, or a virtual host section
#DO NOT USE BOTH
#There are many other settings in the hiawatha.conf
#file that are not shown here, just copy and paste the
#parts in this file into your hiawatha.conf file and
#alter where need be,such as “yourfolder” which should
#be replaced by the name of the folder you install GRAV into,
#when you open “yourfolder” you should see al the GRAV folders
#and files inside.
#and “site” should be replaced by the likes of " microsoft", as
#if your site were named microsoft.com
#===Toolkit Below is for GRAV On hiawatha Web Server ===
UrlToolkit {
ToolkitID = grav
Match base64_encode[^(]([^)]) DenyAccess
Match (<|%3C)([^s]s)+cript.(>|%3E) DenyAccess
Match GLOBALS(=|[|%[0-9A-Z]{0,2}) DenyAccess
Match _REQUEST(=|[|%[0-9A-Z]{0,2}) DenyAccess
Match ^/(.git|cache|bin|logs|backup|webserver-configs)/(.) DenyAccess
Match ^/(system|vendor)/(.).(txt|xml|md|html|yaml|php|pl|py|cgi|twig|sh|ba t)$ DenyAccess
Match ^/(user)/(.*).(txt|md|yaml|php|pl|py|cgi|twig|sh|bat)$ DenyAccess
Match .md$ DenyAccess
Match ^/(LICENSE.txt|composer.lock|composer.json|.htaccess)$ DenyAccess
RequestURI exists Return
Match .* Rewrite /index.php
}
#=== End of This toolkit entry ===
#Refference the GRAV toolkit above in the host or virtual host section
#where you wish to include your GRAV sited details,like bolow.
#in a different section.
Hostname = 120.245.82.190
#Hostname = 127.0.0.1
WebsiteRoot = /var/www/grav
UseToolkit = grav
StartFile = index.php
#ExecuteCGI = yes , no, you can see am using fastCGI
#and the line below reflects this
UseFastCGI = PHP5
AccessLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/access.log
ErrorLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/error.log
#This is the end of the default website section,
#in reality there are many more options that one could include,
#they are explained on the hiawatha website.
#Below is an example of GRAV install details for subdomain.
#Refference the GRAV toolkit above in the virtual host section
#where you wish to include your GRAV site details,like shown beolow.
#In the example below I am using a subdomain to access the Grav site.
#If you wish to install GRAV as your main site, then use the default
#site section and fill in your details there, they will be the same details
#except you will not be entering any virtual host settings such as in the
#example below.
#Hostname = myblog.example, *.myblog.example
VirtualHost {
Hostname = www.grav.site.com, *.grav.site.com
WebsiteRoot = /var/www/grav
StartFile = index.php
AccessLogfile = /var/www/grav/access.log
ErrorLogfile = /var/www/grav/error.log
#TimeForCGI = 10
#ExecuteCGI = yes
UseFastCGI = PHP5
UseToolkit = grav
#UseToolkit = banshee
}
#ServerId = www-data
ConnectionsTotal = 1000
ConnectionsPerIP = 25
SystemLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/system.log
GarbageLogfile = /var/log/hiawatha/garbage.log
Binding {
Port = 80
}
#Binding {
#Port = 443
#}
#BanOnGarbage = 300
#BanOnMaxPerIP = 60
#BanOnMaxReqSize = 300
#KickOnBan = yes
#RebanDuringBan = yes
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/perl:pl
#Uncommented the line below after initial install.
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/php-cgi:php
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/python:py
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/ruby:rb
#CGIhandler = /usr/bin/ssi-cgi:shtml
#CGIextension = cgi
FastCGIserver {
FastCGIid = PHP5
#ConnectTo = /var/lib/hiawatha/php-fcgi.sock:9000, does not work,
#ConnectTo = /run/php-fpm/php-fpm.sock does not work,
ConnectTo = 127.0.0.1:9000
Extension = php
} —
Hi rhukster, why ask for this code and then not comment
I’m actually on a family vacation now. Was trying to squeeze it in before I left, but ran out of time 
Maybe someone else can pick this up while i’m away?
Ah, now I understand, hope someone gets involved, as I do not think this particular error is related to file permissions, and php is working with other web applications without any errors.
After I figured out how to get Hiawatha to run, I tried and I have no issues in Admin doing backups.
I cannot replicate the problem, so I’m not sure what to suggest.
Is there a reason you want to use that over Apache/Nginx/Caddy which are more widely known and used?
Hi, I use hiawatha because it uses very few resources, if you type, free -m in a command shell and run one server at a time you will see the one that uses the least memory.
I just wonder if we are using the same version of GRAV and php, perhaps that could have something to do with it, I use fastCGI via a tcp connection. I tried apache and cant get to the admin page, just to the default home page, any idea why I get an error “not found” when I type the path to the admin page.
I tried with PHP 7 + Grav 1.1.
Look at this doc for “page not found”, you likely miss .htaccess: https://learn.getgrav.org/troubleshooting/page-not-found
Thanks Flaviocopes, I have the .htaccess file in the GRAV folder, so that should be ok.
Ok, I manually edited my httpd.conf file, and the admin section is opening, I did a backup, it took way longer than hiawatha, BUT, I got ready to download message, which leads me to believe php is not my problem, the only difference that stands out is the rewrite rules, one could assume apache is doing it correctly, and thats because GRAV devs wrote the .htaccess file, stuck now as to why hiawatha completes a backup throws an error that stops it from showing the success message I get with apache.
Any ideas, also, did flaviocopes install GRAV as I did as a subdomain, and should this matter, I am accessing GRAV via a domain and via hiawatha as a sub domain, don’t know if this should matter, cant see it doing so.
as none of my other sites care.
Regards & thanks, john